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[magic]

So I've been sick for week and 3 days now. From Friday till Sunday I had huge problems with my throat. I couldn't even drink without pain. It was nightmare. I couldn't cough cause it hurt, couldn't swallow as well. My bf's Godmother which is ex nurse told I may have tonsillitis. At this point I decided I need to go to doctor cause I was worried actually. My bf got me spray and I drunk lots of Camila tea in Sunday and in Monday it got better. But I still decided to go to doctor.

Every times when I go to visit her, which is once in 2-3 years cause I don't like her, she tries to sell some expensive pills that can't be bought in pharmacies. If you know how Olriflame is being sold by private sellers then you also understand how these pills are sold the same way, only I assume it's by doctors. But not phramacies.

All the time she is trying to sell her pills no matter what problems I have. I left her 10Ls and she had... to give me out 50 santims but instead of it she said she will give me another pill as change of 50 santims. And I can't say I don't need those pills cause I don't know them. I don't know what pills I need or don't need.

And if you say that 10Ls is not much, then I will tell it is much in Latvia. Cause common flu pills in Latvia is 2-3 Ls. And she said I have common flu although I never had that bad with my throat ever before.

If I say I want to buy them from pharmacy she would say they are not sold in pharmacy and they really are great pills. She is using psychology cause how can ppl object that they don't need good pills cause in reality no one knows ...if they really are good. She just advertises them as good.

She actually assigned 4 different pills to me. I bought 2 from her and 1 from pharmacy and I didn't buy the 4th one cause her pills were already expensive enough and I can't spend more as I also have to eat.

I even don't know what is inside those pills as she didn't give me the tube where the meds were in. She counted 10 from one tube and 10 from other and made a paper bag (or tornet, not sure which one is the right word) and added 10 in one paper bag and 10 in other paper bag. And wrote the name of the pills and how many I need to use in a day. That's all. Ppl I talked about it in Facebook, after I told the name of pills, said those doen't even seem to be proper meds but some components for the food. So imagine, she didn't even assigned normal pills for flu but food components that you can use daily (if you are rick). But when you're ill you need something different.

Once few years ago she said I need one of her pills. She said it's the same as *title* in pharmacy. I said what is the difference then. She said it's the price. I asked what is the price difference. She said the ones in pharmacy costs 6Ls. I asked how much costs yours? She said 12Ls.I then said I will choose the ones in pharmacy since they are similar. So she made a mistake then but she never made it again so I can't get a reason now of why I shouldn't buy since I need to take them and health is priceless.

[magic]

Oh, forgot to say. I also found what few others said about my doctor in the net. There were some article in news site about doctor's salaries being lowered. In the comments somebody wrote "well doctors like *my doctor's name* will always find a way how not to starve". Another person said "she is pushing patients to buy her pills for whatever illness you have, she always will find something. Besides, in very enforcing way."

[Sharon007]

Its expensive here also its €50 euros to see the doctor and €80 euros for a check up in the Dentist I often wonder if herbal remedies are better

[magic]

it's not that expensive to sign for the doctor when you go to your family doctor. If it assigns you for some specialist, it's almost not that expensive as when you would go to specialist without going to your family doctor. But my doctor doesn't give notice to go to specialist or to get analysis. Cause she would lose one patient and she is payed by how many patients she has.

Herbal remedies ar good if you use it to get your immune system better but not when you are sick, serious sick. You can't get healthy just by drinking herbal teas. You need something stronger.

I drink herbal teas all the time. When I am sick or when I am not.

[Sharon007]

I suppose its not that expensive although it does turn me off going there unless I am seriously sick. Yes herbal remedies only work for certain things. I remember when my brother went to A&E it cost him €100 euros.

[magic]

€50 would be expensive to see doctor in Latvia. What is A&E?

[Sharon007]

A&E means Accident and emergency. I hope you get better soon. Nothing worse then being ill.

[magic]

When we arrive in A&E, we get first aid for free if the injury happened in the same day. If it happened yesterday and you didn't go to A&E then it's not considered as emergency and then you have to pay.

And thank you I am a little bit better but still coughing.

[soap]

Lol.
First I don't understand why you want meds for common flu. I've never even heard you can get meds for it.
So that would be your own fault for accepting

But I do understand your frustration about your docs meds. We need to trust them. Otherwise there wasn't any reason to visit them.

It's good that this kind of meds is not accepted here in Denmark. And that the pharmacies always have to give us the cheapest variant.

[magic]

I don't think it's just common flu. I never had this bad with my throat before. I still have strong cough. I don't think I need antibiotics and I don't want them but I think I need some more stronger than just remedies for food. You can use them when you're healthy to not get sick. But when you become sick, you need something stronger.

Lucky Denmark. I think it's wrong for doctors to sell meds if they gain something from the selling. Also I think it's wrong to pay fee for visiting stright to the doctor and don't receive any check about your payment! It's normal in Latvia.

[Phantom]

are doctors allowed to sell medicine?

normally doctors don't know how to make medicine

pharmacists do that

[Smooth_Criminal]

Phantom, on 22 October 2010 - 02:41 PM, said:

are doctors allowed to sell medicine?

normally doctors don't know how to make medicine

pharmacists do that

There are "charlatans" everywhere...

In France, there are only doctors who make you stop working for few days, if you want, and make you buy medicines like aspirin... and all that is paid back by the Social Welfare!

It's with those doctors that our Welfare is always getting more and more in the red..

[magic]

Phantom, on 22 October 2010 - 02:41 PM, said:

are doctors allowed to sell medicine?

normally doctors don't know how to make medicine

pharmacists do that

no, they don't make medicine, they only sell it. Just like Oriflame private sellers doesn't make Oriflame make up, they only sell it, and it's not available in shops. The same is also about this meds firm.

[soap]

magic, on 22 October 2010 - 11:25 PM, said:

no, they don't make medicine, they only sell it. Just like Oriflame private sellers doesn't make Oriflame make up, they only sell it, and it's not available in shops. The same is also about this meds firm.

Pharmacists are also not making medicine, they just sells it. They could be paid for what they sell too. To pick a specific brand over others.

It's funny you compare to Oriflame. This is not a brand you are forced to use and it's not that expensive. And you can buy oriflame online and from catalogs, so it's not just private sellers. And with oriflame you do know other products you can use instead.


There is different kinds of medicine and some docs do trust in other kinds than the normal ones. It's not that these kinds will not work. They do work for some people. And you can't always find 'normal' meds that is similar.
It's ok as long as the doc is not just doing it to make more money.

But it is hard when they give you no choice and you don't know if you need it.
It reminds me of dentists. They can tell you almost anything and you just have to trust them. They will just tell you it will get worse, so it's better to fix it now. You really don't know if they are right. They might point at a x-ray and say, do you see this dark spot. That's where it's bad. And how could you say they are wrong.

[Phantom]

soap, on 23 October 2010 - 09:56 AM, said:

Pharmacists are also not making medicine, they just sells it. They could be paid for what they sell too. To pick a specific brand over others.

pharmacists do make medicine

the scientists who make the medicine of the brands are also pharmacists

[magic]

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Pharmacists are also not making medicine, they just sells it. They could be paid for what they sell too. To pick a specific brand over others.

I thought the ones making meds are also called pharmacists as Zoi said. But anyway I wasn't talking about them, I was talking about my doctor. I don't think I even mentioned them.

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It's funny you compare to Oriflame. This is not a brand you are forced to use and it's not that expensive. And you can buy oriflame online and from catalogs, so it's not just private sellers. And with oriflame you do know other products you can use instead.

It's funny how you take one sentence and make a whole discussion about it although you don't even understand why I mentioned them. I didn't compare them to Oriflame. I was working in Oriflame and I didn't say they are bad or with high prices. I was only mentioning Oriflame just cause they also use private sellers so ppl would understand what I mean how the meds are being sold. I never said it's the only way how Oriflame is being sold or that the prices are that high.

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There is different kinds of medicine and some docs do trust in other kinds than the normal ones. It's not that these kinds will not work. They do work for some people. And you can't always find 'normal' meds that is similar.

They are not meds she is selling if we speak about that. Remedies (extras) for food so patient would stay healthy. But it doesn't work when you're already sick. I am still sick and I've been drinking these pills for a week now.

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But it is hard when they give you no choice and you don't know if you need it.

Exactly my point!

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It reminds me of dentists. They can tell you almost anything and you just have to trust them. They will just tell you it will get worse, so it's better to fix it now. You really don't know if they are right. They might point at a x-ray and say, do you see this dark spot. That's where it's bad. And how could you say they are wrong.

yes, right. And you end with replacing all fillings you have lol This is why I was visiting dentists for so long.

[magic]

Btw,I visited doctor this Friday. I still have cough and sometimes it's reslly bad. Like Thursday I had rehearsal. In the hall with the big stage it was ok but then we went down to cellar where have a small rehearsal room as well. And I stared to cough so much that tears run down and I couldn't speak cause I was coughing all the time so we ended rehearsal. This night I also woke up cause I was coughing very much.

So I went to doctor cause she told me to show myself Friday and I said it's better than it was in Sunday but no better than the rest of that week. So now she gave me recipe for normal meds in pharmacy. She was talking about her pills again but I said no, I still get them lol

[soap]

Phantom, on 23 October 2010 - 04:09 PM, said:

pharmacists do make medicine

the scientists who make the medicine of the brands are also pharmacists

If you see it in that way, then yes. But I would refer to them as scientists
Normal pharmacists doesn't make medicine. At the pharmacies they just sell it.

[soap]

magic, on 23 October 2010 - 09:11 PM, said:

It's funny how you take one sentence and make a whole discussion about it although you don't even understand why I mentioned them. I didn't compare them to Oriflame. I was working in Oriflame and I didn't say they are bad or with high prices. I was only mentioning Oriflame just cause they also use private sellers so ppl would understand what I mean how the meds are being sold. I never said it's the only way how Oriflame is being sold or that the prices are that high.

OK. I see. Here in Denmark they don't use private sellers. They only use catalogs and webshops. That's why I didn't get it.

magic, on 23 October 2010 - 09:11 PM, said:

They are not meds she is selling if we speak about that. Remedies (extras) for food so patient would stay healthy. But it doesn't work when you're already sick. I am still sick and I've been drinking these pills for a week now.

As you said, she thinks you have a common flu, which doesn't need meds. Just vitamins.
These super-pills that will just cure you in a second doesn't exist
Stay inside and don't go out in the cold might work better for you

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OK. I see. Here in Denmark they don't use private sellers. They only use catalogs and webshops. That's why I didn't get it.

really??? But private sellers have catalogs and they are going around with it looking for client. Sometimes private sellers are going to just ring to ppl's door and offer Oriflame. Sometimes they visit other firm's and offer Oriflame there. Doesn't it work like that around the world?

Describe how it happens in Denmark, pls

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As you said, she thinks you have a common flu, which doesn't need meds. Just vitamins.

Or.... she says it is common flu so she could sell her pills

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Stay inside and don't go out in the cold might work better for you

I have to earn money somehow lol and I have to study as well lol Although when I go out I dress warm, the most important I keep my neck warm