[MonaL]

God says in The Bible that when people die they go to sleep in Christ Jesus until Judgement Day or the time of The End of this world( same thing). I know from reading the Bible either this person is lying/doing the wrong thing by trying to communicate to demons or doing that very thing. Not smart on their part to do either, especially delveing into soccery. I don't approve at all.

This post has been edited by MonaL: 13 October 2009 - 02:57 PM

[magic]

Let's not judge about what is good or wrong in religions cause it may offend other ppl being in other religions in this board. So let's share the thoughts about whether you think this woman says the truth :flowers

[MonaL]

magic, on 14 October 2009 - 01:06 PM, said:

Let's not judge about what is good or wrong in religions cause it may offend other ppl being in other religions in this board. So let's share the thoughts about whether you think this woman says the truth :flowers

I have a right to Judge when something is evil or wrong and does not line up with the word of God. I am not going to sit here and watch people be ignorant or make a choice that could and will damnate their soul for all eternity to hell. I am useing my right to free speach and obeying Gods Law. If someone chooses to display their disobedience to God then I have a aliegence to my creator and to that person to Judge and tell what the truth is. I had this same reaction in another site because I voiced my opinion on my belief in my religion which is the only religion or belief there truely is the rest are myths and I have a right to say what is true and good. It is fact so I will not sit by and watch or participate in passive disobiedience or feel scrutinized by people that choose to do what is blasphemeing God and Jesus or wrong. I have a right to my opinion and for you to tell me not to is wrong. Sorry to be so blunt but you leave me no other option. I was telling why what she says is a lie and why what she said was wrong. If the truth Judges her it is because its Gods word and that is what it does; its like a mirror you can see what is wrong. It is wrong to choose to do the wrong thing or make the wrong or incorrect choice and I am just stating that fact that's all I can do and I really find it offensive when people try to tell me I need to not voice what is true and correct. How would you like it if I told you to answer a question the way I want to hear it? Its not right for me to tell you how to talk just like its not right for anyone to do that very thing to me.

This post has been edited by MonaL: 15 October 2009 - 02:43 PM

[magic]

Christianity is not the only religion out there. Everyone has their own religion that they believe is the right one. To say yours are the only right one is wrong. You have to respect other ppl and their religions. If you want to talk about religion, I suggest you to make another thread. :flowers

The thread will be cleaned if it will continue this way.

[MonaL]

magic, on 15 October 2009 - 02:38 PM, said:

Christianity is not the only religion out there. Everyone has their own religion that they believe is the right one. To say yours are the only right one is wrong. You have to respect other ppl and their religions. If you want to talk about religion, I suggest you to make another thread. :flowers

The thread will be cleaned if it will continue this way.

I find that offensive and to put flowers and a smily face is hypocritical. I was just saying why I don't agree with the lady. You were bashing my religion by telling me not to voice my opinion and if you feel good about treating me this way its very wrong. I wasn't trying to go onto religion it just happened that way. You hurt my feelings

[magic]

I am Cristian as well but I have respect for other ppl and who they believe into, especially if I know them personalty and I know they are good ppl. What about you hurting other ppl? I already got few pms about your post being offensive this is why I asked not to continue religion talk.

Sorry for using emoticon to show that my post wasn't out of anger. Will not do that again.

[MonaL]

[quote name='magic' date='15 October 2009 - 03:56 PM' timestamp='1255618606' post='29721']
I am Cristian as well but I have respect for other ppl and who they believe into, especially if I know them personalty and I know they are good ppl. What about you hurting other ppl? I already got few pms about your post being offensive this is why I asked not to continue religion talk.
I understand but I only tell the truth if anyone chooses to believe a lie I can not stop them. I only wanted to show why I do not agree and it is wrong for that person to do that: say they are talking to Michael. I am just being truthful nothing more. I don't like when people try to stop me from telling the truth and I know people find what I say offensive because I do not agree with them. I can't help that. I just can not think or give my opinion around what other people would like to hear. Whoever pmd you they should tell me how they feel about what I write. They have judged me incorrectly

This post has been edited by MonaL: 15 October 2009 - 03:15 PM

[Phantom]

each person has the right to believe in any religion they want, or to no religion at all :flowers

nobody has the right to tell them that they are wrong, and nobody can claim that they know the whole truth

the truth is different for each person, and since we're only human beings, our opinions are always subjective, nobody, as far as I know, can express their opinion as a general truth

[MonaL]

Phantom, on 15 October 2009 - 03:10 PM, said:

each person has the right to believe in any religion they want, or to no religion at all :flowers

nobody has the right to tell them that they are wrong, and nobody can claim that they know the whole truth

I disagree

the truth is different for each person, and since we're only human beings, our opinions are always subjective, nobody, as far as I know, can express their opinion as a general truth

You have a good point but there is only one truth and many lies

[magic]

For you your Christianity is your truth. For others some other religion is their truth. But this is not the reason why to offend other ppl being in other religion. Everyone has right to believe what they believe.

If you are such a big Christianity then what about God giving us choice? It's not up to you to judge what is good and what is bad. Hamlet said it well "There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so".

And Zoi, you said it very well :flowers

[MonaL]

magic, on 15 October 2009 - 03:27 PM, said:

For you your Christianity is your truth. For others some other religion is their truth. But this is not the reason why to offend other ppl being in other religion. Everyone has right to believe what they believe.

If you are such a big Christianity then what about God giving us choice? It's not up to you to judge what is good and what is bad. Hamlet said it well "There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so".

It is up to me to judge and it says so in the Bible. God gives you free will your choice to choose him or the devil. If you choose some other religion are you choosing God? And if you don't choose God you chose the devil that's the facts. Its your choice right or wrong/heaven or hell.

If hamlet is in hell would you follow him there? What he said was a lie he obviously thought he knew more than he was cable of knowing. That is idiotic what hamlet said. You and I know there is right and wrong and we know the difference. The choice is either right or wrong/good or evil, no grey area

And Zoi, you said it very well :flowers

What did Zoi say and why isn't whichannas entry about how Jesus came to her in a dream in this thread? The devil disguises himself as an angel of light. He is a wolf in sheeps clothing, father of lies, prince of darkness etc. He can disguise himself as Jesus or whatever thought to pursue you to the wrong decision

[Phantom]

magic, on 15 October 2009 - 03:27 PM, said:

And Zoi, you said it very well :flowers

thank you :)

MonaL, on 15 October 2009 - 04:51 PM, said:

What did Zoi say and why isn't whichannas entry about how Jesus came to her in a dream in this thread? The devil disguises himself as an angel of light. He is a wolf in sheeps clothing, father of lies, prince of darkness etc. He can disguise himself as Jesus or whatever thought to pursue you to the wrong decision

I am Zoi :flowers

and yes, I agree with you that devil can appear to people in any form, in order to trick them...

[MonaL]

If you make the wrong decision and choose to believe its right the decision is wrong that's a fact. If you chose to do the wrong thing and know it was wrong but still did it and choose to believe it was right does it make the decision right? No it was wrong whether you choose to believe it was right or not. That shoots hamlets theory. Ok I know who you are but don't know what the other person was agreeing with you on.
I know what the Bible says and it says God is the truth and love. I can't understand why anyone would not want to know him and what Life is about/Jesus is the living water and through him you have life. He said he that drinks from the living water will thirst no more(want no more). Sin is death and the wages of sin is death. God only wants everyone to have the best possible life they can live. I know almost everyone believes lies about him but he loves and is Love. He never lies or can lie. How can he do the things people think about him its just not true or possible. They just want to sin and sin only hurts the sinner

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[magic]

I see something else in Hamlet's quote :) For me it's not so complicate.

[MonaL]

magic, on 15 October 2009 - 05:17 PM, said:

I see something else in Hamlet's quote :) For me it's not so complicate.

What is it you see?

[magic]

It is what it was written. It's just based on your own opinion, what you think what is good or bad. I think it's bad to eat meat cause I am vegetarian but it's based on my own opinion, it is not bad on general.

Let's say Michael was brought up as Jehovah's Witness. Did it make him a bad person? He was the better than most of ppl who's Christians. Does he burn in hell now? I don't think so. Katherine still is Jehova's Witness. I don't see her as pure evil. I don't see her doing something wrong. I see her as very loving and caring mother. I don't think she will go to hell either.

It's not up to what you believe. It's about how good person you are. And as I said, it's also not up to you to judge. Everyone can believe what they want.

[Heidi]

Oh I feel like airing me opinion here :)

I believe I am a good Christian, BUT in a way that MY God taught me to respect everyone, no matter of religion and race.

That means, I love MonaL even though she sees me as evil and well, more or less hates me and thinks I will go to hell.


Because, I don't read the bible, I dont go to church, I dont pray, I dont follow any God's law.

My Christianity is in my heart. My great grandmother taught me to pray and when she died, that part of me died with her and I will not share my prayers with anyone BUT her, so I guess that means I am not praying again untill I sleep in heaven with her.

I think it's sad to see Christians like MonaL. One sided, no respect for others. To me it's not being a true Christian.


God wasn't perfect either. Even he screwed up while making this world. :)

He created Adam and Eve. Well, if they were the FIRST people on earth then......yuck! Then we are ALL created from incest. I'll explain why.....because Adam and Eve had 2 boys, one killed the other.......that leaves 1 boy and 1 momma :)

You go figure :)

Ok, so with this said, I still believe there is more between heaven and earth than we know, but I don't believe every word in the bible......some of the stories are a bit too funky for my taste.


In my lifetime, my hope is that all people of all races can learn to get along, but my great granddad said something before he passed that may be very true and very sad..

"As long as 2 people live, there will NEVER be peace on earth"



.................

[magic]

My dad never believed in God cause he never knew his parents and was brought up in orphanage. I think it's cause he thought if God existed then He took away his parents, or him away from his parents. But he did so much good in his life! And for me he was the best dad I could ever imagine. He always were with me, he never beat me, he was always there. In some way he reminds me of Michael, or Michael reminds me of my dad. And I don't think he is in hell right now.

If Michael, Katherine and my dad, the few I can name of, are evil then I better would like to be evil myself :)

[MonaL]

magic, on 15 October 2009 - 06:48 PM, said:

My dad never believed in God cause he never knew his parents and was brought up in orphanage. I think it's cause he thought if God existed then He took away his parents, or him away from his parents. But he did so much good in his life! And for me he was the best dad I could ever imagine. He always were with me, he never beat me, he was always there. In some way he reminds me of Michael, or Michael reminds me of my dad. And I don't think he is in hell right now.

If Michael, Katherine and my dad, the few I can name of, are evil then I better would like to be evil myself :)

[MonaL]

I think you all have what I think wrong. Not everyone knows what I know or have been through, so no I don't expect everyone to think like me and I know why you all get offensive. The Bible is not so cut and dry just like me I am like Christ; don't attack or scrutinize. I know every surcomstance is different and not everyone believes like I do. I was brought up in church from birth to 10yrs old. We all are different and believe or live according to what we learn and know. I can not say definetley Michael is in heaven I did not know him personally. But my true feeling is he is. Because maybe sometimes he was swayed by outter forces(people, beliefs) but deep down God was who he loved and trusted. I mean he always said his songs came from above or some higher force. So hey everyone is evil its a fact myself included, only I choose to say no anytime I should say no. So don't get offensive I'm here because I care and Michael was the person I love and will allways love. If you have any questions about the Bible or God please ask and I will do my best to give you some straight forward answers. Just make sure you want the truth cause that's what I will give.

This post has been edited by MonaL: 16 October 2009 - 04:57 AM